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Dr. Joseph Arditti
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 21, 2003 - 09:41 pm: | 
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dust off my 15 year old high school French and see if I can muddle my way though it.
Let me know what you find out. The book seems nice. I have it. As a matter of policy I never lend books, but if you are here you can look at it. |
Paula Gould
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 21, 2003 - 08:00 am: |
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Thank you for the suggestion Dr. Arditti. I had never done an interlibrary loan before and would not have thought of it myself. I filled out the 'paperwork' online this afternoon and now it's time to just wait and see if they can find a copy. If they do pull through I'm going to have to dust off my 15 year old high school French and see if I can muddle my way though it. |
Dr. Joseph Arditti
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 06:37 pm: |
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Try interlibrary loan. Much of the work by the French was done in Madagascar. Maybe it did not get all into IK. |
Paula Gould
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 06:24 pm: |
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Thanks for the tip Dr. Arditti. I just did a search by telnet of our school's collection and it doesn't look like we have it. I will keep searching to see if I can track it down.
I also searched through the Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew Provisional Checklist of Orchidaceae which can be accessed online at http://www.rbgkew.org.uk/data/monocots/orchid_intro.html. They list 110 species of Vanilla along with all the synonyms. About the only thing that I have gathered over the past two days of looking is that there are many species that end in ~culata and that perhaps my plant may turn out to be one of those. |
Dr. Joseph Arditti
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 06:06 pm: |
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Regarding Vanilla species: Check La (or maybe Le, I could never figure our French) et le Vanillier dan le Monde edited by Gaston Bouriquet. Published around 1954-1955 in Paris. Seems an excellent book and has a long list of species.
I can never fgure out why people publoish major book in languages that few people in the worlds read. |
Paula Gould
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 05:51 pm: |
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Well, yesterday during a rather lengthy spare I went through nearly 100 years of the Index Kewensis, from the first edition published in 1895 through all the supplements up until 1985. No luck. My Vanilla lucata is 'missing'.
I tried emailing the vendor that I bought it from last night to see if he has any knowledge of where the name on the label may have come from. I'm going to cross my fingers know and let you know what I find. |
Paula Gould
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 11:54 pm: |
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I have seen V. lutescens on lists of Vanilla species. I do know though that I have also seen Vanilla lucata as well on lists of species a few years ago so I don't think that this plant was misnamed so much as the name has probably been changed to another or the species has been lumped in with another one some time in the not too distant past.
Thanks, Wolfgang, I'll look to see if there is a connection between the two plants and see what else I can find.  |
Wolfgang H. Bandisch
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 06:34 am: |
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Paula,
Neville Howcroft advised me that there is a species named V. lutescens from French Guyana (spelling?). Perhaps that might help you to track down the right name.
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Paula Gould
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 15, 2003 - 07:24 am: |
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Wolfgang, no, it has never flowered. I got it up to about 8 feet in length by just letting it 'crawl' around amongst the pots under my fluorescent light set-ups. Not really an ideal situation for it and it got quite spindly over time so I cut it into some nice segments about a year ago and started over. I've got it in an area now where I can give it a little more light, but I still feel bad that it doesn't have a nice tree to scramble up. I've thought about giving it to our local conservatory, but I'm having a rough time letting go of it because it was my first orchid. When I am done school and have my own place and can dedicate a whole room (or two) to my plants I'm going to build something specific for the Vanilla to reward it for putting up with less than ideal conditions all these years. I don't think anything bothers this plant, though. It seems perfectly happy just crawling around under the lights with my cattleyas.
Yes, I have looked all throughout the internet and with no luck. The most I have ever seen in reference to this plant was a single webpage that I found just shortly after I bought it. All that I found there was a mention of the name under a partial listing of Vanilla species, but no information otherwise.
I went through all the databases that I could find on the net yesterday and to no avail. If I get a chance tomorrow I'll see if I can find anything mention of it in our library at school. |
Wolfgang H. Bandisch
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 15, 2003 - 06:56 am: |
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Paula,
has it ever flowered? If so perhaps you can post a picture. I have never heard of that species and (as I am sure you have done) web searches got me nowhere. |
Paula Gould
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 14, 2003 - 01:00 am: |
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I guess I should mention that the databases that I looked in were the Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew Provisional Checklist of Orchidaceae which 'contains 25,000 accepted names and about 45,000 synonyms' and the Missouri Botanical Garden's VAST (VAScular Tropicos) nomenclatural database.
I guess I am most puzzled that it isn't in the RHS database even as a synonym.  |
Paula Gould
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 14, 2003 - 12:52 am: |
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I bought this species in 1998 and it was the first orchid that I ever purchased. A few years back I could do a web search and find, perhaps, one or two hits on the name. I have recently tried to find references to this species in horticultural databases and could find no mention of it at all.
Was this species renamed and if so how could I go about finding what the new name is? |
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