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Dr. Joseph Arditti

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Posted on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 06:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Olaf Gruss,
Please contact me

Joseph Arditti
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Neville H. Howcroft

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Posted on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 05:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

to Mr Olaf-Gruss,

I would like to obtain some pictures of Paphiopedilum bougainvilleanum and P. wentworthianum for a future publication (in progress) on orchids of the northern islands regin of PNG. Can you help me at all?.


Regards

Nev. howcroft
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Fred Freeloader

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Posted on Monday, March 08, 2004 - 05:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thank you both for your information.

1.
The addition of D. glomeratum to the list at first had me almost beginning to pull hair. But, it does seem to fit in. I'm still trying to track down cultural/habitat info for D. sulawesiense to compare to what I've found for the other two. I may be back with a question or two about differences noted between the 3 of them.

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On the list I ordered the D. christyanum gigantium from, it was misspelled as D. cristianum gigantia. I knew the species name had to be a misspelling. Not being all that sharp about the rules of nomenclature, I didn't catch the error for the varietal name. Although, it didn't sound right to me. I guess I'll simply have to wait until it gets here, do my best to help it survive and see what I get out of it.

Again, thanks to you both.
FF
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Stephen Kemp

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Posted on Saturday, March 06, 2004 - 04:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Fred

1. Dendrobium sulawesiense is indeed D. crepidiferum. From what I have found, the latter is the current name for the species

2. "gigantia" would not be a valid sub-specific or varietal epithet. By the rules of nomenclature, it would have to be "giganteum". Chances are that "Gigantia" is a clonal name. I don't know anything about D. fuerstinbergianum but in the B&B book, it says that Siedenfaden considers this taxon to be a tall form of D. christyanum so you could well be right. I recommend posting a photograph of the whole plant with flowers if possible.

Cheers...Steve
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Peter O'Byrne

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Posted on Saturday, March 06, 2004 - 04:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Freeloader,

Both D. sulawesiense and D. crepidiferum are synonyms for Dendrobium glomeratum.

I've never heard of a validly published D. christyanum gigantia. It is probably the invention of a nurseryman seeking to expand his/her stock-list. Whoever labelled the plant doesn't know either their Latin or their nomenclature; the scientifically correct version of this name would be D. christyanum ssp. gigantium. The horticulturally correct version would be D. christyanum 'giant', since clonal names cannot be latinised. Either way, I have no idea what species it would be.

Peter O'Byrne

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Fred Freeloader

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1. I recently purchased a Den. sulawesiense. As near as I can determine it is probably the same species as what is called D. crepidiferum in Baker and Baker's tome. Am I close or...?

2. I have just ordered something named Den. christyanum gigantia from an importer. In looking around I can find no reference anywhere to a variety of D. christyanum with this name. Once again in B&B's tome, I'm led to think it may actually be a Den. fuerstinbergianum. Same question different species, might I be close or...?

Any informed guesses would be apreciated.
Thx
FF

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