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Cattrieu Orchid

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Posted on Sunday, November 20, 2005 - 01:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Introduct some New Paphiopedilum in Vietnam


Greetings!

Here's some Vietnamese Paphiopedilum in Vietnam. Please visite my website:
www.cattrieu.com/phonglan/orchid.asp?type=VNP or www.cattrieu.com/engdefault.asp
All information please send for me as: cattrieuorchid@yahoo.com.vn or cattrieu@walla.com

Bestregard

Cuong Nguyen
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Neville H. Howcroft

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Posted on Sunday, April 24, 2005 - 07:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Dear Olaf, You can post my photo i sent to you on the oGD if you wish but to provide you with the others I cannot help. I had color slides once that came from Dr. Fowlie> This goes back to the Seventies. I hade a visitor stopping with me at the time and he borrowed the slides. They never came back to me.

However, if my memory serves me well Dr. Fowlie published those same photos, which included the P. violascens I talk about, in the AOD.

Those i saw in the lae National Botanical Gardens in the same time I could not photograph as I lacked a camera - I do not think digital had been invented then!

So I am sorry Olaf the only picture I have is the one I sent to you. You can use it if you wish.

Regards

Nev.
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Olaf Gruss

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Posted on Sunday, April 24, 2005 - 12:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Dear Neville,
would it be possible to show on this page the colour-variability of Paph. violascens in PNG.

Best greetings

Olaf
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Neville H. Howcroft

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Posted on Saturday, March 26, 2005 - 10:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Dear Frankie,

Thank you for the photo of the Paph. violascens. It looks very much like ours but i noticed that the tesselations on the leaves behind your flower looks abit different. i have not compared that with my photos yet. Do those leaves belong to your P. violascens?? By the way i really admired those last lot of photos of orchid flowers which included Dendrobium macrophyllum - an extremely variable species, which Peter has alrady informed you about anyway.

The p. violascens here in PNG does vary alot in flower colour even within populations. Our Morobe province specimens mainly have brown coloured slipper but those from up near the madang province have the light yellow green slippers and even towards a red brown in the one population. This latter population no onger exists now and mainly due to natural causes - volcano.

Thank you once again and best wishes.

Nev. Howcroft.
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Frankie Handoyo

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Posted on Friday, March 25, 2005 - 12:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Dear Neville,

I post pict of my Paph. violascens from Papua (Irian Jaya), maybe you want to compare with PNG form.

Regards

FrankiePaph. violascens
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Neville H. Howcroft

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Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 01:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Dear Olaf,

Yes, i agree with you about the differences between the shape of the Staminode shields of the two species. P. violacens is much more lunate with the apices of the lateral lobes of the staminode almost meeting to form an (incomplete) circle, whereas your P. papuanum staminode is somewhat level at the apex and the lateral margins somewhat less curved with the apices not curving towards each other. The "boss" of the staminode shield of Papuanum seems more raised and more elongated than tha which you can see on P. violascens. At least that is the way I see the differences between the two. I hope i do not appear to be imagining these differences. Petal-wise there also appears to be differences but I have not realy tried to define these. I will come back to you later on another matter regarding P. bougainvilleanum and P. wentworthianum.

Best wishes

Nev. H.
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Olaf Gruss

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Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 03:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Dear Neville,
please excuse that I did not answer.
Your plant is a beatiful but typical Paph. violascens and different to the normal Paph. papuanum.
The difference you can see especially in the staminode but also in the petals.

Many thanks for the informations and best greetings from Bavaria

Olaf
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Neville H. Howcroft

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Posted on Monday, February 07, 2005 - 11:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Dear Olaf,

I think you received the image of P. violascens from the garaina region. It seems to be different from your latest photos of P. papuanum.

What do you think of the Garaina P. violascens. Do you think it is the same as your P. papuanum??

The Staminode shield looks abit different.

Regards

Nev. howcroft.
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Olaf Gruss

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Posted on Monday, December 13, 2004 - 01:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Dear Nev,
a long time passed when I asked for Paph. papuanum, violascens and perhaps zieckianum

Did you get more informations in the last time about? You wrote that you want look for some of your earlier drawings.

For this time best greetings from the now a little frozen Bavaria

Olaf Gruss
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Neville H. Howcroft

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Posted on Sunday, October 05, 2003 - 12:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

dear Olaf,

Thank you. Now I will have to chase around and find some of my earlier botanical drawings of P. violascens to see what I recorded. I do not have any reference books on Paphios. Gets more interesting with each email.

Could do with a lot of rain at kokopo where i live. Just at present more volcanic dust then any thing. Rain clouds building up so it looks promising. Plenty of sunshine here at keravat this sunday. Rather be fishing than working.

Regards

Nev.
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Olaf Gruss

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Posted on Sunday, October 05, 2003 - 10:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Dear Nev,
Paph. papuanum differed for the first view by the feature of the flower especially the petals. The staminode is very different to Paph. violascens. is more similar to this of Paph wentworthianum.
Within a picture of the staminode.

With best greetings from the rainy Bavaria

Olaf
Paph. papuanum staminode
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Neville H. Howcroft

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dear Olaf,

The photo of the leaves makes the leaves look like that of P. violascens. How does the staminodal shield compare with P. violascens?

The drawing of P. zeikianum leaves shows a different pattern of tessalation and to some degree looks abit like that of P. bougainvilleanum.
I noticed some spotting on the basal part of the petals of Schoser's photo of P. zeikianum that i did not notice before.

Nev.Howcroft
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Olaf Gruss

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Posted on Friday, October 03, 2003 - 01:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

For better information also a picture of Paph. papuanum in habit.

Best greetings

Olaf
Paph. papuanum in habit
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Olaf Gruss

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Posted on Friday, October 03, 2003 - 01:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Now the picture of the type


Olaf

Paph. zieckianum Type
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Olaf Gruss

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Dear Paphiopedilum friends,
with you find a picture of the sketch published with the original description published by SCHOSER
in Die Orchidee 18: 4, 1967

īBest greetings



OlafPaph. zieckianum Type sketch
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Wolfgang H. Bandisch

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Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 04:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The image fits in well with Philip Cribb's description in his book 'The Genus Paphiopedilum' page 172. He also mentions a personal communication from Tom Reeve to have found a SINGLE specimen at c. 1,700 m in the Southern Highlands Province of PNG.

I wonder if we could contact Tom Reeve to elaborate a bit more on this. I have only seen P. praestans in the S.H.P.
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Neville H. Howcroft

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Dear Olaf,

I have not seen P.papuuanum before and this is the first photo of one that is suppose to be that species that i have seen. Paphio. violascens I have seen in the wild at several places and these look superficially like your Paphio. papuanum but I notices some differences between yours and the wild Paphio. violascens. The first is the upper margins of the petals seem to be somewhat serrate and with hairs. In P. violascens they have hairs but they do not appear to appear on serrations, if that is the correct term to use for what I think I see. The next is there are spots on the face of the basal part of the petals that do not show in P. violascens. Also the colour is muddier on yours, both on the labellum and the petals while the dorsal sepal lacks purple main veins.

There is some colour variation within populations and this was illustrated by the late Dr. Fowlie in an article on P. violascens, P. wentwothianum and P. bougainvilleanum. The later looksed more like P. vilascens than the the second. which I understand some believe is the same as P. zieckianum.
Fowlie's article appeared in one of the american orchid Digests around the mid to late seventies. I once had a copy but cannot locate it now.

The Staminodium shape I was told is different between the species but I have also been informed that one onf the differences between P. papuanum and P. violascens is that the former has green leaves and the latter has mottled leaves. Never the less some people regarded them as one and the same.

Does your P. papuanum have green leaves or mottled leaves?

Another bit of information is that Paphio. ziekianum was suppose to have been found in the Southern highlands of PNG by Mr. Tom Reeve. Jack Zieke's Paphio. was found on the Vogelkop some where tha Anggi Lakes. When I saw the Photo of the southern Highlands one I was not sure that it was the same as Jack's slipper orchid and I felt at the time that it looked more like Paphio violascens. But then that was only a first impression, i never got the chance again to look at it further and I never saw a herbarium speciumen of that plant to check it out.

Regards

Nev. Howcroft
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Olaf Gruss

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Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 07:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Dear Paphiopedilum friends,
in the collection of a friend I found again a Paphiopedilum papuanum in flower.
Paphiopedilum papuanum
I am looking also for pictures of plants which are in culture labeled as Paph. zieckinaum.

Best greetings

olaf
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Wolfgang H. Bandisch

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Olaf Gruss kindly provided a number of images of Paphiopedilum papuanum, two of which I attach to this message. Images can only be attached ONE at a time so there will be two messages, one showing P. papuanum from the front and the other from the side (this one!).
Paphiopedilum papuanum side
I invite Olaf to comment on this particular cultivar!
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Wolfgang H. Bandisch

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Olaf Gruss kindly provided a number of images of Paphiopedilum papuanum, two of which I attach to this message. Images can only be attached ONE at a time so there will be two messages, one showing P. papuanum from the front and the other from the side.

I invite Olaf to comment on this particular cultivar!

Paphiopedilum papuanum front
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Wolfgang H. Bandisch

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Posted on Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 10:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

You want to be able to post images? YOU GOT IT!

The Orchid Spring Discussion Board offers many ways to enhance your messages. You can insert tables, mathematical formulas, use subscript and superscript, the list is endless. Please go to HELP and click on FORMATTING.

Here is a picture to start with: my picture and all I can say is: .

In this case, just to show off, I also added the clipart image CHEERS.

ONLY images with the extension JPG or GIF are allowed and I ask that images are being reduced to a reasonable file size.
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Peter Fowler

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I agree about images. It would put the iceing on top of the cake, to be able to do so. Orchids are beautiful plants and one picture is = to a thousand words.
What about a spell checker. Or could you type the message in Outlook Express, check spelling , copy and paste?
Peter Fowler
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Dr. Joseph Arditti

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Posted on Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 12:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

This list seems so neat that it would be nice to add images. Why not:
1. Allow posting even of low grade images just for the list to illustrate a point? Some people do not have broadband and may prefer to send small files.
2. Provide a special way to send high quality images? I have no idea what such a "special way" may be and how to implement it.

If this is a dumb suggestion ignore it. It is early in the morning and at this time of day I am pretty slow and my mind does not wrk vey well.

Joseph Arditti
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Wolfgang H. Bandisch (Wolfgang)

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Posted on Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 09:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi Olaf,

thank you for pointing this error out to me. At this point I am still considering as to whether to allow posting of images as some people are not aware of 'massaging' images for faster transmission via the Internet on a quality versus speed consideration.

You are certainly most welcome to add a link to your message(s) to point to where an image is located on the net (if it is) or you are most welcome to email that image to me at webmaster@orchidspng.com and I will upload it to my pages and credit both author and source.

All my best,
Wolfgang
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Olaf Gruss (Olaf_gruss)

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Dear Wolfgang,
on the pages of PNG Orchid News I found the picture of a plant named Paph. papuanum. But it shows a typical Paph. violascens. The true papuanum differs in the staminode and also the shape of the flower.

Best greetings

Olaf

I could send also the pictures of the true papuanum, but I don't know if it is possible on this discussion board.

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